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This is a list of the men who died in HMS Triumph. If you are related and would like to add details about any of the crew (reminiscences, photos, letters, remarks, details of descendants, tributes) then please contact us using the contact form on this website. We now have photographs of half of the crew - can you help us get more?
|Able Seaman Edward Connor JX 204301||Aunt, Alice Wright, 23 Albert Road, Eccles, Manchester||Kathleen Connnor, Niece|
|Able Seaman Geoffrey Brown JX 190464||Mother, Matilda Brown (nee Boatwright), 33 Bowers Avenue, Drayton Estate, Norwich||Geoff Brown, New Zealand, nephew, Len Smith, second cousin||
Geoffrey's father was Charles Brown, who died in 1938.
Geoffrey's brother was a Petty Officer Medical Assistant, whose son Geoffrey now lives in New Zealand and sent us these photos.
|Able Seaman George Clements SSX 24276||Mother, Florence Clements, 8 Samford House, Barnsbury Road, London|
|Able Seaman George Cross||Wife, Catherine Cross, 62 Hillside Crescent, Scotswood, Newcastle on Tyne|
|Able Seaman George Harrison||Wife Angelina Harrison, 12D Exeter St, Plymouth, Devon||
AB Harrison served with George "Shrimp" Simpson in HMS Thames, in 1932.
In his autobiography Shrimp (then Captain S10 at Malta) records seeing Harrison emerge from the fore hatch in Malta in August 1942. Shrimp greeted Harrison, asking after his wife and the three (triplet) boys they had had in 1932. "Well Sir" came the reply. "It was just bad luck. A bomb got the lot of them at night in that blitz on Devonport".
|Able Seaman John Underwood DSM||Mother, Bertha Underwood, Back Lane, Swinderby, Lincs||John Underwood, nephew, Angela Pugh, cousin||
Jack was the oldest of six brothers - Horace (Chub), Ron, Dennis, Morris (Moke), and Ralf (Des). Three of his brothers served in the RN, and one of them took part in the evacuation from Dunkirk.
We may have some letters home to come...
John Underwood came to Triumph's 75th Memorial at Alrewas...
and brought a photograph of his grandparents at Buckingham Palace receiving John's medal in 1943.
John also brought some letter home from Jack...
The first one was written from Alexandria in October 1941..."a grand boat and a good crew"...
After coming to Alrewas John said:
"It was a very moving and dignified remembrance to the crew of HMS Triumph. Very interesting to meet up with other family members of crew and chat about their loved ones. For some years it never occurred to me that some crew would have had wives and children back home. Suppose being as Jack was just 22 when he died I assumed they would all be young lads and we would be brothers, sisters, nieces and nephews. Therefore I found it very moving to talk to Ted Wilkinson whose father died on Triumph when he was only 3years old."
As a footnote, 21 of Triumph's people were married, and we know about five Sons of Triumph so far.
|Able Seaman Leonard Esau||Mother, Rose Esau, Southdown, Ridgeway, Long Ashton, Bristol||Margaret Horgan, Leonard's niece.||
Leonard was drafted into the submarine service. His brother joined the Royal Artillery and finished the war as a Major.
Margaret Horgan came to Triumph's 75th Memorial at Alrewas
|Able Seaman Luther Jones||Wife Ester Maud Jones, 133 Mildmay Road, Ipswich, Suffolk||
Son of William and Anna Jones.
|Able Seaman Richard Howard||Mother and father, Ellen and William Ernest Howard , 5 Lichfield Road, Chorley, Lancs||Ann Carrington, niece||
Richard had two brothers, Bernard (Ann's father) and Ernest Anthony. Both served in the RN, and survived the war. Richard was born in Chorley Lancs and grew up there with his brothers.
Richard's niece Ann Carrington came to the 75th Memorial Service at Alrewas.
With Richard Carrington...
|Able Seaman William Hall||Father, William Hall, 371 Shobnall St, Burton on Trent, Staffs||Lucie Winter, great niece||
Billy's parents were Mabel and William Hall, who had seven children.
Lucie has identified Billy in the Pyramids group...
Billy was mentioned in Dispatches for bravery shown in HMS Dido in the evacuation of Crete in May 1941. He was writing home in April 1941 from HMS Triumph, so it seems likely that he was loaned to Dido for some reason. His service record card at Kew should give an answer wnen we get the chance to look at it.
Billy sailed from the UK in the aircraft carrier HMS Courageous, arriving at Malta in January 1941. Here is his letter home written the day he arrived, Sunday Jan 22 1941.
We dont know when Billy transferred to Triumph.
Lucie came to the 75th Memorial at Alrewas...
|Able Seaman William Neville||Father, Charles Neville, 19 Surrenion Road, Folkstone, Kent||Ian Neville, nephew||
Ian: "Both billy and my father had a carved figured pipe each. They made a pact that if one should receive the other's pipe, then they would know the other had died. I have them both and I can't imagine how upsetting that must have been to open the parcel to find it."
|Acting Leading Stoker Patrick Coakley||Mother, Norha Coakley, Ballinglana, Clonakilty, Co Cork, Ireland|
|Bombardier Alfred Robert Child||Charlie and Anna Child, married P M Child of Moreden Wilts||Brian Child, grandson||
Bdr Child was also listed as lost in Triumph, but again, we cannot find any record of his mission.
Child was almost certainly one of the 60 members of 1 Special Boat Section, formed in October 1941 out of 51 Cdo. As such he would have been a practised Folboat operator.
|Chief ERA Thomas Phillips||Son of Thomas and Lucy Phillips; husband of Ethel Mary Phillips, of Ringwood, Hampshire||Mark Scoble||
Chief Engine Room Artificer Phillips is listed as lost in Triumph on the Commonwealth War Graves website, but not on the list of those lost submitted by Captain Raw of SM1.
We are looking into this. It is possible that he joined Triumph at short notice for an acquaint trip, but that the records did not tie up at the time.
However, CERA Phillips is also listed as receiving his DSM along with the rest of Triumph's awards, which suggests that he was a long-term complement member of the crew. It is possible that the ship's office of Medway simply made a mistake by leaving him off the list of those lost. This would be unusual, but clearly not impossible.
CERA phiilips was the head of the engineering team, under Lt Wright. His subordinates (in the terms of the time) were the Donk Shop Horse, the Outside Wrecker (who looked after machinery outside the engine room), and thee watchkeeping engineers.
|Chief Stoker Wilfred Stockham DSM * BEM||Wife, Kate Stockham, Shanklin, Chestnut Avenue, Weydon Lane, Farnham, Surrey|
|Corporal Clive Severn||H Severn, 64 Rosecroft Drive, Daybrook, Notts||
Corporal Severn is listed as missing in Triumph, but we cannot find any records of why he was aboard. He was an experienced and fit Folboteer, and was probably embarked to help with the heavy rowing task of landing 5,000 kgs of stores and bringing off dozens of escapers at the end of the patrol. Folboteers were also embarked to operate Bren Guns on the bridge during gun actions against caiques, and during boarding operations. Brens jammed frequently, and sailors were not well trained in keeping them operating.
Severn was almost certainly one of the 60 members of 1 Special Boat Section, formed from 51 Commando under Major Mike Kealy. 51 Commando began to be disbanded in about July 1941. Men were posted in dribs and drabs to the Special Boat Section, whose usefulness had been proved by Lt Crd Wilmott in showing that a landing in force on Rhodes was impractical. This mission was launched from Triumph in March 1941.
On 7 October 1941 Corporal Severn embarked in Triumph's sister Torbay, and on 10th October rowed a Captain Haselden and a local guide ashore at cape Ras el Hamama in Libya. Haselden's mission was to scope out the much larger Commando landing (FLIPPER) that was to take place a few weeks later. Severn's boat could only take one passenger, so Haselden stripped and was towed ashore behind the folboat. Severn was probably involved in the actual landing of Lt Col Laycock's force two weeks later, and with their recovery a couple of weeks after that. The story of Layforce's landing has been told extensively in print.
Folboats were folding canvas canoes. The name was actually a german word for a folding canoe. Roger Courtney, the founder of the Folboat Section in the Commandos, first used one rowing the Danube before the war on his honeymoon.
In 1941 the Folboat section was given a more anonymous name - the Special Boat Section - to hide its purpose.
|CPO Reginald Nott DSM * P/J 107537||Grace Nott 86 Manor Road Itchen Southampton|
|Electrical Artificer 1 Arthur Biggleston DSM||Wife, Gladys Bigglestone, 66 Collingwood Road, Southsea, Hants|
|ERA 5 Harold Stephens||Mother, Elizabeth Stephens, Gilfach-Glyd, Pontardawe Road, Glydach, Swansea|
|ERA Herbert Russell||Father, Herbert Russell, 29 Omega Street, Southsea, Hants|
|ERA John Glen||Ian Glen, Orkney, Scotland, Son||Ian Glen and Helen Nicol||
Ian Glen is John Glen's son, who now lives in Orkney.
Helen sent us this photograph
John Glen was born in 1906. He worked in Arbroath as an engineer. He married at Wallington in Sussex, and then in 1933 emigrated to New Zealand. He came back to England for the war, and in February 1941 joined HMS Ambrose, the submarine depot ship in Dundee. In July 1941 he was at Dolphin, and was posted to HMS Medway, Triumph's depot ship, in July 1941. It looks as if he was in Triumph for her last patrol as a supernumerary.
|ERA William Dempster||Father, George Dempster, PO BOx 288, Mazel Spoort, Bloemfontein, South Africa||Nephew, Rob Dempster, Pietermaritzburg, South Africa||
William Dempster's brother was a Wellington navigator, flying out of Malta, and was also killed.
Willam was an engineering trained mechanic, with the equivalent rank of Corporal, who was probably a watchkeeper in the engine room, responsible for keeping Triumph's two diesels operating.
|ERA2 Fred Wilkinson||Wife, Muriel Wilkinson, 44 Naylor Street, Crewe, Cheshire||Edward Wilkinson, son||
Born in 1906, Fred trained as an apprentice on the LMS Raiway. When he qualified he joined the RN in 1929 as an artificer.
Fred served in HMS Resolution from January 1931 to Sep 1933, was drafted to HMS Rodney, then HMS Eagle. Fred was a helmet diver. While in the far East he dived on a sunken gun runners boat, recovering two swords as personal souvenirs. His wife refused to mount these over the mantlepiece! On the outbreak of the war Fred persuaded his wife to move with his family home in Cheshire. A few weeks after the move his house was bombed.
Fred joined the submarine service in May 1940. While on his submarine course in Portsmouth he volunteered with others to go to Dunkirk, taking an 80ft. Ex-Belgian vessel on several crossings, returning with our troops each time. Along with many other men, this service is not recognised in his official record.
Fred had passed for Chief ERA.
Fred grew his beard in Triumph, so this photo must have been taken in Alexandria.
This is an earlier photo.
Fred is the man sitting on the left hand camel (our left, (his right) in this group photo.
In October 1941 Fred wrote home hinting that he might see Muriel soon. Triumph had obviously received her orders for home by this date.
Fred left his watch in his locker in Medway, and it was sent back to his family with his effects. It is now worn by his son...
On 9 January 2017 the Triumph families met at the National Memorial Arboretum at Alrewas to commemorate Triumph's 75th anniversary. After that event Ted wrote...
"Since the loss of ''Triumph'' I have not been able to attend such a personal and emotional, yet not sad, event.
The attention of everyone was centred on the communal loss of such a brilliant crew, with so much to give if their future had been allowed them. Their sacrifice has lasted the 75 years without dimming. I was proud to be with all the people yesterday and like others I'm sure I have made new friends..
Thank you also to our Padre Rev Tim Flower of the Mercia Regiment, and our friends from the @Neptune Association as well."
|Leading Cook Cornelius O'Brien||Wife, Esther O'Brien, 60 Berridge Road, Sheerness, Kent||Arthur Ogden, nephew||
Arthur sent us a photograph, which he believes shows Cornelius getting married in Inverness. He has not been able to verify it completely, but the groom's age and badges fit. We are having technical difficulties getting it to upload
|Leading Seaman Alfred Davies JX 139965||Mother, Louise Davies, 38 Gladstone Road, Seacome, Wallasley, Birkenhead||
Born in 1912.
Alfred was an L/S LTO, so a Leading Torpedoman, and therefore a practical electrician as well as a seaman.
|Leading Seaman Donald Hutchison DSM||Wife Esther Hutchison, 21 Twelvetrees House, Bromley-by-Bow London||Sons, Reg Hutchison, in Hundringham Norfolk, Donald Hutchison, Daughter, Gladys Russell||
Donald joined Triumph from L27. We dont know for sure yet, but it is likely that a few other L27s joined with him.
|Leading Seaman Frederick Lancaster||Mother, Bertha Lancaster, 9 Frisby Road, Leicester|
|Leading Seaman George Newby||Father, John Newby, 97 Long Lane, Wavertree, Liverpool||Cathy Ferguson||
George was recorded in the casualty list as an AB, but is wearing a Leading Seaman's anchor on his left sleeve, so must have been rated up as Acting Leading Seaman.
|Leading Seaman John Cairns||Mother Annie Cairns, 2 Gardners Crescent, Edinburgh|
|Leading Seaman John Hinds JX 141259||Mother Catherine Hinds, 125 Birchington Avenue, Grangetown, Middlesborough||
John was an L/S LTO, so a Leading Torpedoman, and therefore a practical electrician as well as a seaman.
|Leading Signalman Thomas Kilty||Mother, Annie Kilty, 15 Cross Street, Gilfach, Bargoed, Glamorgan|
|Leading Steward James Walmsley||Wife, Ellen Walmsley, 29 St James Road, Moorpark, Preston, Lancs||Grandson, Stewart Thompson||
Ellen Walmsley attended the commissioning ceremony of the present HMS Triumph, a nuclear hunter killer submarine, and died in 2006.
Jim Walmsley and Ellen married some time in tthe 1930s, and lived in married quarters at Rosyth, until the outbreak of the war, when she moved back to her parents' home in Preston. They had one child, Barbara Suzanne, born 7 February 1940. Family history says that Jim was in Triumph when she struck her first mine in the North Sea, blowing her bow off. She survived, and returned to port under her own power. None of the crew were hurt.
Barbara had four children, one of whom is Stewart, who lives in Carlisle.
|Leading Stoker Claude Baxter||Wife Emily Maud Baxter, 26 Elms Road, Fareham, Hants||Alun Baxter||
Claude's grandchildren are Alun Baxter, based in London, Kevin Baxter, Joy Channon and Sylvia Knight. Claude's son (their father) died in 1981.
Claude completed submarine training on 29 September 1940. This photograph has him with a cap tally showing the name of an H class boat - perhaps his training boat in 1940.
Claude took a month's leave and was drafted to HMS Forth (the submarine depot ship in Scotland) on 1 November 1940.
He was drafted to Triumph shortly after arriving in Forth. Triumph left the Holy Loch on 6 November 1940 for Gibraltar, with Claude as part of her crew.
Claude was promoted to Temp Acting Leading Stoker in April 1941.
|Leading Stoker Ronald Neville||Wife, Kathleen Neville, 44 Rollasby Road, Chessington, Surbiton, Surrey|
|Leading Telegraphist Reginald Waye DSM||Mother Constance Way, 144 Fairholme Crescent, Hayes, Middlesex|
|Lt Alfred Peterkin DSC||Father, Alfred Peterkin, 9 Perrin Road, Wallasey, Cheshire|
|Lt Edward Arthur Collins||Father, James Collins, 53 Marine Parade, Leigh on Sea, Essex||Jane Swan, Arthur's niece, Mary Micthell-Gogay, cousin||
Born in 1916 in Woolwich to James Edward Collins (civil servant at the Admiralty Office) and Nora, Edward Arthur Collins was 11 when the family moved to Leigh-on-Sea in Essex. He spent most of his leisure hours sailing his yacht on the Thames estuary.
On leaving school Arthur worked for the National Provincial Bank in London, and on 12 Jan 1937 he joined the London Division of the Royal Naval Volunteers. Three years later in January 1940 he became a Temporary Sub Lieutenant in the Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve based at Scapa Flow, serving initially as Commanding Officer of the trawler HMS Deo Volante, and from June of that year as Temporary Lieutenant in command of the drifter HMS Coldsnap. Arthur remained at Scapa Flow until October 1941, which he spent training at the Royal Naval Quarters in Blyth.
On 9 December he wrote a letter home from Gibraltar, and another - his last - on 21 December from HMS Medway, a submarine depot ship in readiness for joining the crew of HMS Triumph.
It is rare to see a colour photo from this period! This one was taken on Dufaycolour, and has survived remarkably well.
It was taken in Autumn 1941 on Arthur's last shore leave. Judging by the sunshine and foliage, probably around early September 1941.
And here is a black and white portrait. Both photos courtesy of Jane Swan.
Arthur flew from the UK to Alexandria in November 1941, spending nights en route in Ireland, Portugal and Gibraltar. When he arrived in Alexandria he joined the depot ship HMS Medway, and was probably drafted to Triumph for her last patrol as a familiarisation trip. As Triumph was due for home after that patrol it is unlikely that he would have gone home with her after such an expensive and elaborate journey out to Alex.
Arthur had a sweetheart, Dorothy, who is still alive at 102...
Jane, Mary and Mike all came to Triumph's 75th Memorial Service at Alrewas on 9 January, Dorothy's birthday.
Here are Mary and Jane (left and middle), with Adam Theobald, at Alrewas.
And here is Mike Swan, with Ted Wilkinson
|Lt Geoffrey Wright DSC MBE||Wife, Elizabeth Wright, 15 Carlisle Street, Alderley Edge||Son, Chris Wright, of Riebeek Kasteel in South Africa, niece Frances Impey||
|Lt Johnny Huddart||Father, George Huddart, Froyles, High Street, Lindfield, Haywards Heath, Sussex||
This is Johnny Huddart's service record card, from the Submarine Museum archive at Portsmouth. He was mostly employed as a "spare captain", joining boats for short periods for passage, or to relieve a CO who was unwell or otherwise absent. Triumph was his first full-time command.
This is the memorial to Triumph put up by Johnny Huddart's parents in his local church (photo Ian Glen)
Johnny's father was probably George William Huddart, born 1880. Johnny's grandfather was the Rev George W Huddart LLD (wife Caroline Huddart, born Otter in 1857). Their son, Lt Robert Edward Thorne Huddart, was killed in action on 30 June 1916 on the Somme, serving with 2 Batt Rifle Brigade. He was 31, so born in 1885. Caroline Huddart was chair of the East Sussex Womens Institutes from 1919 until she died in July 1932.
|Lt Michael Janvrin DSC||Father, Revd Claude Janvrin, The Rectory, Withington, Gloucs||Robin Janvrin||
Michael Janvrin while he was serving in HMS Ursula, appearing in a propaganda film.
and at school...
Michael's elder brother Richard survived the war and retired as Vice Admiral Sir Richard Janvrin KCB DSC. His son (MIchael's nephew) also joined the RN, leaving to become a diplomat and then Private Secretary to the Queen.
Robin Janvrin came to Triumph's 75th Memorial Service at Alrewas...
|Lt Robert Douglas Don DSC * *||Nephew, Gav Don, living in Edinburgh||
Robert's younger brother was too young to fight in the war, and had six children, one of whom founded the Triumph Association. Robert joined the Navy in 1937, and was a Midshipman in HMS Exeter at the Battle of the River Plate (where he won his first DSC). On returning to the UK he immediately volunteered for the Submarine Service, joining Triumph in the Autumn of 1940. He was awarded two DSCs for patrols in Triumph.
Letter home March 1941...
Robert in 1941...
|Midshipman George Waterall||Mother Margret Sybil Waterall, Father, Leonard Saxton Waterall, Cranford Lodge, Maidenhead, Berks||Michael May, nephew||
As a cadet at BRNC Dartmouth probably his leaving photograph in April 1941.
George was appointed to HMS Valiant, at Alexandria. As a young Mid he was required to spend three months serving in a small ship. Most Mids would have chosen destroyers, but George wanted to transfer to the submarine service, so chose submarines.
Here is George after passing out from Dartmouth
After George was lost his CO in HMS Valiant, Captain C E Morgan, wrote a three page letter to his parents. We have tried to upload this but are having technical problems.
|Petty Officer Robert Theobald DSM||Wife, Ivy Theobald, 30 Richmondway, Croxley Green, Herts||Adam Theobald, Great Grandson||
Robert Theobald joined the Submarine Service in 1930, aged 24. He was probably the longest serving submariner in Triumph, and one of the crew's oldest members.
Here he is on parade in a Guard in 1927
And with his two sons Robert and Frank
Robert joined Triumph in March 1940, as she worked up for her Mediterranean deployment.
Robert was cited for a Mention in Despatches in November 1941. The Citation is below, signed by Captain Raw of SM1. Robert was the gunlayer, responsible for adjusting the elevation of Triumph's 4 Inch gun. A gun action was a whirl of speed - the standard reached was six aimed shots fired within 60 seconds of the conning tower breaking the surface - the team had to pile out of the hatch against a stream of incoming water, unseal the gun, load, aim and fire within about fifteen seconds, then firing five times more in 45 seconds. Triumph was very good at gun actions!
Tragically, by the day of approval, 16 Jan 1942, Robert had already been lost.
Robert sent a christmas card home for 1941. This was written, then photographed onto a microfilm, which was flown home, printed in the UK and then posted, so ensuring on-time delivery which would have been impossible by normal post.
Robert's great grandson Adam came to the 75th memorial service at Alrewas, with Robert's medals.
|Petty Officer Walter Wickham||Mother, Elizabeth Wickham, 111 Thicket Avenue, Fishpond, Bristol||Wally Wickham, Walter's son||
|PO Colin Duffay DSM||Mother Edith Duffay, 132 Peverell Park Road, Plymouth||Stuart Morrissey, Great Nephew||
Colin Gordon Hugh Duffay was born on the 17th May 1913 in Plymouth, Devon to John Hugh Duffay (Retired Royal Navy) and Edith Emily Duffay. He was one of 12 children having 8 sisters and 3 brothers. As was common during this period in history, military service was a common passage for young men and in the case of our family; all four of the Duffay boys joined the Royal Navy.
By the time World War Two was underway, two of Colin’s other brothers were in active service with the Royal Navy – Stuart (my Grandfather) serving on surface ships and Owen as a fellow Submariner. Sadly, Owen perished with the loss of HMS Regulus in the Mediterranean in 1940. This followed by the tragic loss of Colin in HMS Triumph two years later was undoubtably too much to bear for their Mother who sadly passed away in February 1943.
From an early age I have been fascinated by these two deceased members of the family and immensely proud of their sacrifice. I have always been determined to keep their memory alive, especially given that like so many of their comrades, they were taken at such relatively young ages and before they had been given the chance to marry and have families and just experience life. Finding this website and community has therefore been a very moving experience and it is great to see that the lost patrol has not been forgotten.
As a final sad footnote to this story, Colin’s Mother Edith, received several letters from the Admiralty following the reported loss of HMS Triumph. Amongst these sad letters were a Kings Order Commendation for bravery in rescuing colleagues from a burning ship during an enemy air attack in Malta Harbour along with the award of a Distinguished Service Medal. I find it sad that Colin never lived to learn of these well-earned commendations.
This is Colin probably wearing a Pandora cap tally.
And here is Colin in plain clothes.
|PO Cyril Sheldon||Wife, Violet Sheldon, 4 Watchgate, Lanes End, Dartford, Kent|
|PO Telegraphist Archibald Cochrane JX 129493||Mother Marion Cochrane, Breadstone Hotel, Breadstone Dorset|
|PO Torpedo Gunner's Mate Frank Collison DSM * JX 131634||Wife Doris Collison, Gava, 42 Lensdale Avenue, Cosham, Portsmouth||John Linck, grandson, from Trowbridge in Wiltshire||
|Stoker Arthur Robinson||Mother Laura Robinson, 11 St Ives Avenue, Blackpool, Lancs|
|Stoker Coleman Kelly||Mother Bridget Kelly, Talbot Town Lodge, Brittas, Co Dublin, Eire|
|Stoker Eric Rosendale||Sister, Ina Marian Fleming, 9 Robin Hood Close, Mitcham, Surrey|
|Stoker Ernest Wilson DSM||Wife Lily Wilson, 3 Winsfield Terrace, Great Cambridge Road, Edmonton|
|Stoker Harry Bowles||Mother Anne Bowles, 6 First Street, Birkinshaw, Tannockside, Uddington, Glasgow|
|Stoker Herbert Gates||Wife, Elsie Maud Gates, 106 Berwick Crescent, Sidcup, Kent||David MacLellan, great nephew, and numerous relatives in Canada||
Bert was born in 1902 in Faversham, Kent, so would have been one of the older men aboard Triumph.
His sisters Edie and Ethel emigrated to Canada before the Great War.
Bert is on the left in this photo, taken aboard HMS Cyclops at Malta. It is likely that the other man is a Cyclops crew member, and that Bert was visiting.
We will try to get the photo cropped to make it larger!
Here is Bert getting married to Elsie...
and here is Bert at the Pyramids...
|Stoker John Turner||Wife, Mary Turner, 9 Ash Street, Burnley, Lancs||Linda Williams, Eileen Radford and Mike Radford||
We are almost certain that this is Leading Stoker John Turner, identified by his daughter. John is listed as Stoker in the casualty list, but here he has a Leading Hand's Killick anchor on his left sleeve. It is possible that he was rated up (either full or acting) in the boat, but that this did not make its way back to the Admiralty's records. His service record does not have a promotion on it.
John (Jack) Turner was born on 17 May 1910 in Sheffield
In May 1929 John joined up aged 19, on a twelve year engagement. After training he served in a destroyer (HMS Watchman). John competed for the Fifth Flotilla in the Tug of War at Gibraltar in March 1930. This photograph is probably of that contest. John is fourth in from the anchor.
Here is John in a football team. The Coach has a Watchman cap tally, so this is probably Watchman’s team at Gibraltar. John is in the back row third from our left.
Here is the team being presented with its cup...
This photograph shows John (on our left) in a Watchman hat, with no Good Conduct Badge (awarded after five years in), so it is somewhere between 1930 and 1933.
He volunteered for submarines in March 1933, and qualified in June 1933. In 1934 John was in HMS Parthian stationed in the Far East. He fractured his skull diving off the conning tower to bathe at Wei Hai Wei in August 1934. We have a photograph of him aboard a P and O ship in tropical whites, probably on his way to the Far East in 1934, but possibly on his way to Alexandria in 1940.
In October 1936 he was injured in a fight with Japanese port police at Keelung on Taiwan. His Hurt Certificate reports that he was beaten up by the Japanese.
He joined HMS Superior some time in 1939 and HMS Trident in build at Nirkenhead in May 1939. Trident was commissioned on 1 October 1939 and sailed from Birkenhead to Plymouth. He left Trident in October 1939 and came ashore to Dolphin, until drafted to HMS Medway in July 1940, working in the Auxiliary Machinery Space and the Engineer’s store. We cant quite see when he was drafted to Triumph. In July 1940 Medway was already at Alexandria. It is possible that John sailed to Medway aboard Triumph in the winter of 1940. It is also possible he sailed out via the Cape in a civilan ship. We have a photograph of him on a P and O steamer that has no date.
John married Mary in 1935 and had two children, Eileen and Jack. Eileen was born in 1937 or 1938 in Gosport, and Jack while John was at sea in Trident, so probably some time in October 1939. The family lived in Burnley, Lancs, convenient for the yard at Birkenhead.
This photo of John is probably with Eileen in 1938, perhaps at her christening. His cap tally reads HMS Capetown. Capetown was a cruiser, at Portsmouth in refit in 1938, so he might have been attached to her, though his service record doesn’t show that. He might also have just borrowed his Oppo’s hat!
The man standing looks very like Sydney Hart, author of Discharged Dead, and John's friend.
This is John’s last letter home. It is undated, but the envelope shows 21 December, and that is probably when it was posted. John mentions the fact that the Japanese have entered the war (putting it after 7 December 1941). John says “we are now in harbour again”, referring to her return from patrol on 11 December. The letter has several hints that John will be home soon (Triumph had been ordered home), and doesn’t mention that they have been ordered out one more time. The envelope date might be Medway's post office date, meaning John wrote it a few days before.
John refers to some photographs, one of which is probably the Pyramids photo. Sydney Hart, in his memoir "Discharged Dead" tells of bumping into John Turner in Alexandria in December 1941 (so some time between 11th and 24th). John was busy shopping for gifts to take home, as he had heard that Triumph was to head home. At the last minute Triumph was drafted in to carry out operation ISINGLASS in place of another defective submarine, and was lost. Sydney watched Triumph sail out to sea at dusk on boxing day 1941. John doesn’t refer to his friend Sydney Hart in this letter, which suggests that they had not yet met up in Alexandria when he wrote it....
I am deeply grateful to Linda and Andrew Williams, who provided us with these womderful and poignant mementos of John.
The Turner family has let us have these two groups. John is seated left in both.
This one, in tropical whites, was probably taken in the Far East. John has his good conduct badge on his left sleeve, marking five years of good conduct (or undetected crime, as we used to say in the Navy), putting this photo after 1934 and before 1940.
The picture below is John with a shipmate from HMS Watchman. The shipmate looks very like Sydney Hart, again. John has his good conduct stripe, which is odd as that would date the photo after 1934, but John left Watchman in 1933. Again, he might have borrowed a Watchman hat to "backdate" the photo.
|Stoker Walter Harding||Wife, Alice Harding, Upper Oxford Street, South Bank, Yorks|
|Stoker William Albert Ranson||Mother Esther Ranson, 119 Mearley Road, Manor Park, London, E12||Carol Flunder (nee Ranson) niece||
Here is a picture of William, with Carol at East Ham seeing his name added to the East Ham war memorial:
I think William is also in the pyramids photo, standing with what might be a souvenir scroll between the donkeys on our right of the photo...
Carol came to the 75th Memorial Service at Alrewas...
|Stoker William Goddard||Mother Emily Goddard, 223 Whitchurch Lane, Edgeware, Middlesex|
|Stoker William McGee||Father William McGee, 6 Cross Street, Durham|
|Telegraphist Harle Stone||Mother, Margaret Stone, 63 Throstle Terrace, Middleton, Leeds|
|Telegraphist Richard Crummey||Mother Eileen Crummey, HM Coastguard Station, Croyde, North Devon|
|Telegraphist William White DSM||Mother Alice White, 8 Woodlands Road, Epsom, Surrey||Graham Harding and Syrena Cator, cousins||
William (Billy) fought in the Battle of the River Plate in HMS Ajax. He was awarded the DSM for fighting a fire in MV Talabot in Valetta Harbour.
Billy served in HMS Pembroke, HMS Ramilles, HMS Ajax and finally in Triumph. The RN SM Museum holds an archive of his letters, and when we have time we will see if they throw any new light on Triumph's life.
Graham Harding came to the 75th Memorial Service at Alrewas...